--- dave dorkin <ddorkin1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I do disagree myself & I know alot of musicians who
> also do. How many I cant say, but most non musicians
> would be hard pressed to meaningfully evaluate the
> music, more so now than ever before. I would say
> that
> the general public in the US no doubt agrees with
> you
> though. I think jazz is something very different
> from
> what it used to be. More fused with other phrasings,
> timbres, styles, extended harmonies & rhythms the
> people you mention never imagined & the idea of a
> relative dearth of good jazz is much stronger in the
> musically more conservative american jazz
> imagination.
>
> Dave
>
> --- andie nachgeborenen: But I don't believe that
> most jazz people would put any of these people in
> the
> same league with Coltrane or Parker or Ellington or
> Armstrong. I actually don't believe that you do. If
> you do, well, you and I disagree about whether there
> is a falling off (or an efflorescence) that needs
> explanation.
>
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