> Then a number of interesting people are guilty of the same crime. Cf.
> Thos. Jefferson & friends, good Enlightenment liberals, who wrote in the
> summer of 1776 that the independence of the American states was founded
> upon the laws of God -- indeed, that it was "self-evident" that people are
> "endowed by their Creator" with fundamental rights. --CGE
Ah, there's the rub.
This goes to show the harmfulness of the veneration of the constitution and Founders. As long as arguments for the US as a secular and plural state rests upon appeals to the 1st amendment and the Founders views, the *best* you can honestly get out of it is a Judeo-Christian inspired Deism. And that ain't secularism.
And just how does the "just the facts, ma'am" brigade explain religious belief and the influence of religion in politics in this country without just calling people stupid?
-- Curtiss