[lbo-talk] Logic

Charles Brown cbrown at michiganlegal.org
Fri Sep 19 10:34:06 PDT 2003


From: BklynMagus

-clip- Secondly, when I think of human beings, I never think of logic, but rather of desire... -clip-

For me, desire comes first. Truth is a concept that humans invented in order to get better access to the object(s) of their desire. Logic is the system of truth verification employed to give power to one group over another in their pursuit of these objects.

I put "queer" as the first part of my tag to acknowledge these facts about desire. I think sometimes the role of desire is overlooked when talking/writing about why human beings act the way they do. -clip- So no, I do not see logic as being inherent in human beings, nor do I see human beings as seekers truth. I see them as pursuers of the objects of their desire. For me one of the ways out of this problem is in the analysis offered by the second part of my tag -- specifically Buddhist notions of personhood.

Brian Dauth Queer Buddhist Resister ^^^^^^ CB: Yes, humans are pursuers of objects and subjects of their desire.. However, so are all animals seekers and pursuers of their diesires. For cats, life is all about fulfilling their desires. So, for pheasants. In these types of discussions, usually what is aimed at is to isolate what makes humans unique from other animals. Though I agree it is important not overlook how we are alike. Humans , like others, are also pursuers of objects of necessity, need. Also, the objects of human desire are heavily influenced by history and human society, as contrasted with other species.



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