it's one thing to engage in a funny flamefest where you engage in humorous put downs of one another.
baiting, OTOH, is a logical fallacy: poisoning the wells of discourse.
what kind of argument is that? it isn't an argument. it is, rather, a tactic for eliding substantive discussion. all of us have fallen into this trap. but it is weird to see folks defending logical fallacy as a form of entertainment!
kelley At 10:58 PM 9/23/03 -0700, Eubulides wrote:
> > Brian Siano:
> >
> > > And really-- what is so bad about Red-baiting? They're so _easy_ to
>bait, and when they worked up, it's actually really funny.
> >
> > This is true. My God, what fucking wimps.
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>These look like sensible, non-coercive rules to me, Dennis. So why don't
>you take your adolescent imitation of Clint Eastwood's pathological
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>have more fun getting your adrenaline addled cortex off...............
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