[lbo-talk] Re: dalai lama

Jon Johanning jjohanning at igc.org
Sat Sep 27 12:54:50 PDT 2003


On Thursday, September 25, 2003, at 01:34 PM, Alexander Nekvasil wrote:


> If Tibet had been all
> about smiles, tofu, and pacifism, it would hardly have
> aroused the interest of Harrer and friends. So, some
> nastiness must be hidden somewhere, most likely in the
> political economy and/or governing process.
>
> If you find fault with my reasoning, say where.

With pleasure. Perhaps you are unaware of this, but the Nazis were LOONEYS, my friend -- stark, raving ones. Nothing -- I repeat: *nothing* -- they were interested in makes any sense. They were experts in organizing mass murder on a scale never seen before in history, and that's basically all they knew. The fact that some of them were interested in some looney fantasies about Tibet means no more than the fact that they were interested in looney ideas about the Jews. Or would you argue that their interest in the Jews (and gays, and Romani, and the handicapped, and "Slavs," and ...) are evidence that "there must be some nastiness hidden somewhere" in those groups, too? Where there's fire, there's smoke, eh?


> What exactly did I attribute to Tibetan buddhism?

You wrote:

"I don't know much, neither, but I do know that Tibetan buddhism was a big inspiration for the SS (which saw itself as an order, of course.)"

I don't see any reason in the ever-lovin' world for you to mention the SS in connection with Tibetan Buddhism (BTW, why did you capitalize "Tibetan" and not "Buddhism"?) except to smear the latter. The two subjects have absolutely nothing to do with each other except in the Nazis' profoundly diseased heads.

I swear, I am coming to the conclusion that anyone who mentions the Nazis in any Internet discussion which is not specifically about National Socialism as an episode in German history is probably bats.


> In _Parsifal_ (Hitler's favorite), the Kundry figure,
> which obviously represents the _Shekhina_, gets baptised
> by Parsifal and dies immediately afterwards. Adorno saw
> this as prefiguring the genocide -- but of course, all
> this has nothing to do with the Dalai Lama, or with what
> I said.

You're right about that, at least.

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