Well, culturally, we've more or less won, as many rightwingers concede (corporate co-optation, however, shakes everything down to a brownish powder). It's in the political sphere, primarily foreign policy, where we struggle. But even there we've seen results. It's tough to blast through all that mainstream conditioning and brain-washing -- miles of very hard rock. Presidential politics will be the last place we'll have any real effect, simply because, unlike Perot, we don't play to the comfortable self-image that most Americans have. And one of the prez's jobs is to continually flatter the masses into behaving and remaining politically idle. Telling people to struggle for their true freedom inspires them to switch the channel to ESPN or Lifetime.
DP