Carl
>From: andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>
>
>I'm a litigator -- the guy they call in when the transactional lawyers
>fail. But there are a lot more of the transactional lawyers who mainly
>finalize agreements and just do things people want done, like sell some
>real estate or arrange a merger. There are a lot fewer lawyers on my end of
>things, litigators, and even then most of the disputes don't involve
>failures of ethics but different understandings of agreements or questions
>about who is responsible when when and if someone was careless. Now it is
>true that in my practice I deal with a lot of allegations of fraud, mostly
>unmeritorious, or anyway unprovable, and I defend real crooks, white color
>as well as actual murderers, but I think that real crooks are about as
>(un)common among businessmen as among regular people. Unethical behavior is
>more common, but it's also more common among people who aren't
>businesspeople than criminal or downright crooked behavior.
>
>Carl Remick <carlremick at hotmail.com> wrote:>From: andie nachgeborenen
> >
> >Actually, this is cheap cynicism that shows a mistaken grap of the nature
> >of markets and business activities. Business runs mainly on trust and
> >requires an fairly robust ethical standard. If it's all a cheat and and
> >sham, then any market system would collapse in very short order.
>
>Spoken like a true corporate lawyer. Chuck is right: There are no business
>ethics; business is what you can get away with. The fact that distrust is
>so universal in business dealings explains why there is such extensive
>demand for lawyers like yourself. Epidemic mutual suspicion among business
>people is your bread and butter, counselor.
>
>Carl
>
> >From: Chuck Grimes
> >
> >---------
> >
> >No problem.
> >
> >The answer is there are no business ethics.
> >
> >There is no limit to, that is to say, there is no
> >greatest lower bound
> >on the indefinite interval of malfeasance, fraud, and
> >corruption by
> >and for the conduct of business except those imposed
> >in the completely
> >tangential formalism of the cost-benefit calculation
> >of litigating
> >them.
> >
> >What the fuck else is there to understand?
> >
> >Doktor Chuck
> >
> >^^^^^^^
> >
> >CB: There is the One Commandment: "Thou shall make
> >money".
> >
> >*******************************************************
> >
> >And the way you do that is by hiring wage-slaves and
> >paying them less than the value of the commodities
> >(goods and services) they collective end up producing.
> >
> >"Thou shalt not steal." ????
> >
> >Best,
> >Mike B)
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