[lbo-talk] real world labels include 'zionism' and 'zionist'

Samuel Waite haymarket326 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 29 14:08:36 PST 2004


Yeah, some of the things he writes are just completely beyond the pale. In a debate about the right of return, he faulted the Palestinians for not wanting to "share" their land. (I once read an interview with John Wayne in which the same was said of the American Indians).

--- joanna bujes <jbujes at covad.net> wrote:


> Yes, I actually heard Michael L. in person argue
> that the Zionists
> moving into Palestine were like blacks moving into a
> white neighborhood.
>
> No. Not by a long shot. Not historically, not
> metaphornically, not in
> any damned way.
>
> Joanna
>
> Samuel Waite wrote:
>
> >I'm inclined to agree, but I'm curious: how, then,
> >would you respond to someone like Michael Lerner,
> who
> >equates Zionism with affirmative action for Jews?
> >
> >--- Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Jon wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>But since I have the opportunity, I can ask. By
> >>>
> >>>
> >>"zio-liberals," do
> >>
> >>
> >>>you mean people who are not committed to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>eliminating Israel?
> >>
> >>Whether there is one state or two states in
> historic
> >>Palestine or
> >>whether there is a state called Israel in it is
> not
> >>the most
> >>important question. After all, what's in a name?
> >>
> >>The question is whether people are committed to
> >>upholding equal
> >>rights between Arabs and Jews (as well as other
> more
> >>recent
> >>immigrants) in historic Palestine.
> >>
> >>Zionism as it is practiced by the state of Israel
> >>rests on the
> >>negation of equal rights.
> >>--
> >>Yoshie
> >>
> >>* Critical Montages:
> <http://montages.blogspot.com/>
> >>* Greens for Nader: <http://greensfornader.net/>
> >>* Bring Them Home Now!
> >><http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/>
> >>* OSU-GESO: <http://www.osu-geso.org/>
> >>* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
> >><http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html>,
> >><http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php>, &
> >><http://www.cpanews.org/>
> >>* Student International Forum:
> >><http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/>
> >>* Committee for Justice in Palestine:
> >><http://www.osudivest.org/>
> >>* Al-Awda-Ohio:
> >><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio>
> >>* Solidarity: <http://www.solidarity-us.org/>
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