[lbo-talk] Freud (and Why Not Jung?)

Thomas Seay entheogens at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 19 16:19:39 PST 2004


If Freud is scientific, just because he came up with some theories based upon anecdotes and created a topography of the psyche inhabited by such creatures called "ID", "superego", "ego", why not go with Jung? He cited a number of other creatures, like the anima/animus, the shadow, etc, and he is every bit as scientific as Freud (I mean, they both had medical degrees, right? ;)

Now I know I shouldnt bring up the batting average of Freudian analysis...because we wouldnt want to get dirty taking into consideration how effective a "cure" it is, but I bet the jungian batting average is about the same...and that aint very high, if memory serves me.

I would almost compare their degree of science to shamanism, except for the fact that I suspect shamanism probably is much more succesful as a cure (at least for people in a particular shamanistic society) and has a far broader anecdotal knowledge of the human psyche than did Freud psychoanalysis. In any case, at least some shamans give hallucinogenics to those who seek their help and that sounds like a lot more fun than shelling out 200 bucks an hour to a bore who doesnt even dance around fires, sing, and couldnt brew up a half-way decent cup of ayahuasca if his life depended on it.

-Thomas

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