[lbo-talk] Re: RIP, Dr. Fraud

BklynMagus magcomm at ix.netcom.com
Fri Feb 20 12:11:08 PST 2004


Dear List:

Okay, I am lost.

Ted quotes:

"When, therefore, it is a question of investigating the driving powers which — consciously or unconsciously, and indeed very often unconsciously — lie behind the motives of men who act in history and which constitute the real ultimate driving forces of history, then it is not a question so much of the motives of single individuals, however eminent, as of those motives which set in motion great masses, whole people, and again whole classes of the people in each people; and this, too, not merely for an instant, like the transient flaring up of a straw-fire which quickly dies down, but as a lasting action resulting in a great historical transformation."

So, is it saying that one person's own desires do not make history, but the group desires that the masses have in common? Like the masses can be seen to be programmed to have? Through advertising, religion, schooling etc, etc.

"Ideology is a process accomplished by the so-called thinker consciously, indeed, but with a false consciousness. The real motives impelling him remain unknown to him, otherwise it would not be an ideological process at all. Hence he imagines false or apparent motives."

So if something is an ideology it comes about because of a false consciouness. Does that make all ideologies bad? What does a true consciousness produce? And can an individual ever know all the forces that impel her to do something? Can a person achieve that level of transparency?

Brian Dauth Queer Buddhist Resister



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