[lbo-talk] Re: IAC/ANSWER hack to defend saddam?

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Yeah, I can see the point that the mildly troubling
think about Clark is not taht he is identified with
the antiwar movement, but with a controversial
("Saddam-loving") wing of it, thus making himself and
the rest ofa  target for more smears. I also agree
that people here vastly overestimate the attention
that ordinary people even of moderate political
awareness pays to who's who and who stands for what
(actually or otherwise) in the movement. The stars n
bars set thinks that any doubtsa bout the war mean you
are Saddam's gay lover. Taht goes for Thomas S and
Chuck O too. It's like the story about the cop who was
beating on the right wing trade unionsit at the strike
picker line, cursing him for being a Bolshevik; when
the guy says, But I am an _anti_communist, the cop
says, All you redsa re the same to me. jks

--- Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> wrote:
> Doug Henwood lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org, Mon, 5 Jan 2004
> 10:03:42 -0500:
> 
> >Stephen Philion wrote:
> >
> >>Saddam's right to council should be a given, but
> who should provide 
> >>it is a legit subject of debate.
> >>
> >>--utter nonsense, i'm sorry. due process is about
> lawyers not 
> >>having to fret over whether or not their
> counselling 'good guys'. 
> >>either ya stand by it or ya don't. poo pooing
> someone for 
> >>representing x or y because it's patriotically
> incorrect by 
> >>definition annuls any commitment to due processs.
> >
> >Steve, no one's disputing SH's right to a lawyer.
> The problem is the 
> >political ramifications of someone so identified
> with the antiwar 
> >movement taking the job. Remember the Nation's
> David Corn going on 
> >O'Reilly saying that the movement was run by
> Saddam-sympathizing 
> >Communists? That was a slur, but this would make it
> ten times worse.
> >
> >Doug
> 
> It's also noteworthy, however, that Commie-bating
> and Saddam-baiting 
> remained on the hard right and the tiny margins of
> anarchism and 
> liberalism.  By and large, the rest of the
> ideological spectrum -- 
> including the big media like CNN, the New York
> Times, the Washington 
> Post, etc. -- eschewed the sort of rhetoric that you
> fear.
> 
> After all, it's a few LBO-talkers, _not_ the
> Christian Science 
> Monitor itself, that made much of Ramsey Clerk's
> willingness to offer 
> his legal expertise.
> -- 
> Yoshie
> 
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