The dichotomy you're drawing - between working to defeat Bush and working to build a movement that demands far more radical change - is ridiculous. Both of those things are immeasurably important, and many activists are recognizing that by doing both. Or, like Nathan, they mostly do one thing and in solidarity, acknowledge the importance of the other. Most of the reasons to choose one form of political engagement over another are temperamental and visceral, and as your posts on this issue demonstrate, difficult to defend logically.
And I have never met any genuine progressives of the ABB variety who don't realize the next DP president is going to be vile. I am sure they plan on protesting him as soon as they recover from the victory party.
Liza
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> And incidentally, if 2005 under Bush _does_ constitute a real crisis --
> those best prepared to respond would be those who worked on organizing
> outside the electoral arena this year. We (the non-ABBs) are, I suspect,
> the ABBs Plan B. :-) We're also the kernel of Plan B if a DP
> administration turns out to be as vile as I suspect it will.
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> Carrol
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