The ends justify the means? Nothing succeeds like success? Color me unimpressed.
Why can't Moore try to show the interrelation of American foreign/military with oil interests without the implications that the Afghan war was primarily about oil? The Afghan war maybe was wrong but it surely had a legitimate purpose, along with being part of the expansion of business interests. Can't Moore hold two ideas in his head at the same time?
Jacob Segal
> Jacob Segal:
>> in general I don't like his attempt to inflame through emotional
> appeals
>> that are sometimes based on a slipshod grounding in facts.
>
> Unfortunately, that is the only thing that works, at least in this
> country. Moore seems to understand pretty well that the stuffed shirts
> in the US government and business have all the hacks money can buy to
> refute or obfuscate any fact produced by their detractors and to produce
> false facts to their liking. They are pretty well equipped to combat
> any argument levied against them. What they cannot do, however, is to
> defend themselves when they are ridiculed and stripped naked of their
> posturing and false appearances. There is not much they can do when
> people laugh at them.
>
> Ad hominem? Perhaps - but we live in the times when speech has been so
> debased by commercial propaganda and political spin that arguments are
> devoid of any meaning. You can only be rational with those who
> understand what rationality is. Businessmen and politicians, however,
> use words and logic the way a drunk uses a lamp post - for support
> rather than enlightenment. The bastards are determined to keep their
> position at any cost and whatever it takes and they know darn well what
> they are doing and what consequences their actions have. Do you really
> think they will capitulate before facts?
>
> The bastards must be assaulted by any means necessary. Ad hominem and
> ridicule are the fist step. And it works. Fahrenheit 9/11 was an
> excellent propaganda film and achieved its goal - it made people curse
> Bush and Cheyney and if it made at least some of them more resolved to
> dump them - so much the better.
>
> It also scored a few other valid points that are usually omitted from
> the "polite" discourse - the class dimension of the US warfare state,
> the total capitulation of the Democrat Part under Bush assault, and the
> hypocrisy of the American people in general as demonstrated by their
> gung-ho attitudes when the war seemed to go well, and the crying and the
> gnashing of teeth when body bags started coming back home.
>
> Wojtek
>
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