[lbo-talk] "Stupid Gay Men on the Left"

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Fri Jul 2 21:49:27 PDT 2004


Grant wrote:


> > >What happened to the argument that marriage itself is a demeaning
>> >institution and who wants any of it?
>> >
>> >Joel
>>
>> Twenty-first-century wage slavery is, more often than not, a more
>> demeaning institution than twenty-first-century marriage, but I have
>> yet to hear any leftist say that we should not struggle for the equal
>> right to employment because employment is just wage slavery.
>> --
>> Yoshie
>
>These kind of arguments are fine in themselves, but IMO they reflect
>the sadly diminished expectations of the western left in the early
>21st C

What, are you arguing against voting for Kerry? :-)

Seriously, if we were in the sort of *revolutionary* conditions that would make it *absurd* to be pressing for equal rights to marriage and employment as workers and our allies were *clamoring* for outright *abolition* of marriage and wave slavery, I'm sure that those who are arguing for Kerry now would be arguing for Nader or his equivalent, while I wouldn't support Nader under such conditions.

Discussion here must have seriously dumbed down, though, if I have to spell out things like this. -- Yoshie

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