[lbo-talk] "preaching to the choir"

joanna bujes jbujes at covad.net
Sun Jul 4 12:00:29 PDT 2004


Yup. Went out to dinner at a Japanese restaurant last night. Before taking our order, the waiter (whom we had never met before) asked us what we thought of the F911 movie. Would have had a lengthy conversation except I was really hungry and wanted to get on with dinner.

The lines are just as long this weekend as last weekend. Word of mouth is bringing them in and you can't participate in conversation in the Bay area if you haven't seen this movie. "Preaching to the choir" indeed.

Joanna

Liza Featherstone wrote:


>I just love how people who write for these marginal echo-chamber
>publications keep accusing Moore, whose movie is selling out in malls across
>the country, of "preaching to the choir!" If I'd ever overheard folks in
>malls and steakhouses or even hipster bars in Brooklyn -- all places I've
>now heard F911 discussed -- discussing Counterpunch or the Progressive, I
>might be a little less derisive of this line of "critique."
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>Liza
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>>From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
>>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>>Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 12:41:11 -0400
>>To: lbo-talk <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
>>Subject: [lbo-talk] CP's hit on F911
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>>[wotta pile of crap - I saw the movie in Danvers, Mass., which is not
>>much like Northampton, but the audience reactions were not dissimilar
>>- and yesterday in a chain steakhouse in suburban NJ we overheard a
>>gray-haired lady in a powder-blue suit at the salad bar, urging
>>fellow diners to see it]
>>
>><http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine07022004.html>
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>>July 2, 2004
>>
>>Moore's Fahrenheit 911
>>Mocking the Moral Crisis of Capitalism
>>By DOUGLAS VALENTINE
>>
>>
>>"The question is not what goal is envisaged for the time being by
>>this or that member of the proletariat, or even by the proletariat as
>>a whole. The question is what is the proletariat and what course of
>>action will it be forced historically to take in conformity with its
>>own nature.
>>
>>Karl Marx, "The Holy Family"
>>
>>They wept! They roared with laughter! At inappropriate times they
>>applauded, the politically correct, white middle class audience at
>>the Academy Theatre in avante guard Northampton, MA, home of Smith
>>College, and many fine restaurants.
>>
>>But, then again, Michael Moore was preaching to the choir, wasn't he?
>>And that's the first of two big problems with Fahrenheit 911.
>>
>>The other big problem is this frivolous film's utter futility.
>>
>>Let's be realistic. Moore says the purpose of his incoherent
>>mockumentary is to get Bush out of office - which, in and of itself,
>>"t'is a consummation devoutly to be wish'd." But the political
>>passing of George W. Bush has no meaning, for even if the public
>>shuffles him off, it's still left with Long John Kerry, and the
>>strangling coil of oppressive laws, secret decrees, and eternal
>>imperialistic war (with its attendant corruption) that Bush has
>>wrapped so tightly around America's neck.
>>
>>"Ay, there's the rub."
>>
>>Kerry is just another "money-grubbing, ass-kissing, bromide-mouthing"
>>politician, as Gail Sheehy might say, and he is as acceptable to the
>>Establishment as Bush. With Kerry in office, the war on terror and
>>the occupation of Iraq will continue apace, with perhaps a little
>>more of the stolen loot going to our anxious allies waiting
>>avariciously in the wings. In the larger scheme of things, Fahrenheit
>>911 changes nothing: Halliburton keeps its blood-soaked contracts,
>>the Republicans control both houses of Congress, and no neo-conmen go
>>to the gallows for stealing $20 billion in oil revenues from the
>>Iraqi people (I'm curious to know how Christopher Hitchens
>>rationalizes that?), or for the massive war crimes they have
>>committed. Kerry's performance during the Iran-Contra investigation
>>assures the rich political elite of a continuing cover-up.
>>
>>While watching the movie, I couldn't stop thinking about how Moore
>>had evidence of the torture at Abu Ghraib, and didn't tell anyone! I
>>wanted to stand up and scream: What's it all about, Mickey? Is it
>>just for the moment, or the money, we live? Or is it the thrill of
>>being catapulted into the stratosphere of American celebrity?
>>
>>I thought to myself: I should have seen it coming, when the nouveau
>>riche glitterati gave the movie a twenty-minute standing ovation at
>>Cannes. Anything that so pleases the perfect people in Porsches
>>cannot, by definition, have any redeeming value.
>>
>>A monumental letdown, Fahrenheit 911 is a sick exploitation film that
>>tells us nothing new about ourselves, and changes nothing in the
>>world. Yes, the farcical clips of Bush making a fool of himself add
>>comic relief to the melodramatic footage of Bush and his venal clique
>>visiting vengeful tragedy upon the world, and profiting from it. And,
>>to his credit, Moore courageously goes where no man in the corporate
>>media has dared to go before: he loosely chronicles how the tragedy
>>unfolded, while being extra careful not to mention Israel. Here's how
>>the story goes: Bush steals the election, lets the main Saudi
>>suspects in the 911 mass murder case escape because his "daddy" is in
>>business with them, and then goes on a worldwide killing spree with
>>the blessings of Major Generals Rather, Brokaw, and Jennings.
>>
>>You've heard it all before; any tenth grader from Freyburg, Maine
>>could have told us that.
>>
>>To sum it up, Moore's swipes at Bush are irrelevant during the
>>current crisis-du-jour of capitalism. How much time must we waste
>>laughing at Bush, tripping over his tongue, before we grab our
>>pitchforks and storm, as family-values proponent Dick Cheney might
>>put it, the fucking White House?
>>
>>The answer, to judge from the reaction of the "progressive" and
>>academically oriented audience I was sitting with, is over and over
>>again. Which, again, is the saddest part of watching his film. I'm
>>sure Moore didn't intend it, but his mockumentary is as much an
>>indictment of his adoring, bourgeois fan club as it of the criminal
>>Bush regime.
>>
>>Even the film's unstated premise - that the government, on behalf of
>>the rich, creates employment and a disposed, easily indoctrinated
>>lower class that will happily fight and die in imperialistic
>>adventures - was put forth about a hundred and fifty years ago.
>>
>>Alas, to the earnest audience in Northampton, this subliminal message
>>seemed like a revelation.
>>
>>So there we sat. When the clapping was over, there was no place to go
>>(save one of those fine restaurants). Like Bush in Iraq, Fahrenheit
>>911 has no exit strategy. Nor was one ever intended. F-911, like the
>>psychological warfare campaign we are subjected to by the Bush
>>regime, is a cataract of powerful, contrived words and images that
>>generate raw, predetermined emotions that result in a disturbing, but
>>aimless, class-consciousness.
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