And incidentally, as to the debate raging over F-911 - Moore did not start the debate, he inserted himself into a controversial and heated discussion that has been going on for three years. He and his defenders shoudl not be surprised that there are many rich critiques of Moore. Indeed, it is the people offering these critiques that Moore borrowed his ideas from to make the film.
Joe W.
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Doug Henwood wrote:
Laurence Shute wrote:
Where does "marginality" end and principle begin?
That's a good question. Sometimes standing for a principle will marginalize you. But from years of watching left thinking and organizations, I've concluded that for some people the marginalization itself is a marker of principle, and that any kind of success is a sure sign of a sellout. So, since Moore is packing them in, he must be a hack or an apologist or a whore.
Kind of like how the conservatives play the "victim."
I hate being marginal. My goals as an anarchist have revolved around popularizing anarchist ideas and analysis for the mainstream. But Doug has a point about the Left adopting marginality as a badge of honor. Leftists who are successful get cut down, or accused of selling out. And then we sabotage our projects by trying to alienate the "normals."
Chuck0