[lbo-talk] Bohemian Grove

Joseph Wanzala jwanzala at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 20 15:40:45 PDT 2004


So Chip, would you care to perform a close reading and analysis of this statement from my earlier post showing why in your estimation it is more 'Birch' than 'Mills'? Feel free to drudge up anything else I have written from my dossier to ampliify your point.

"The Bohemian Grove as you know has been meeting for decades and every year there are articles in the Chronicle about the goings ons there. But I the prominence length and depth of this article is quite unprecedented and I think it has to do with the way in which 'conspiracy politics' has moved from the margin of political discource toward the center since November 2000. I think there is simultaneously a growing public dread for and acknowledgement of the unofficial, even criminal, channels through which state power is exercised and subverted and a bizzare fascination with and veneration of it."


>From: "Chip Berlet" <cberlet at igc.org>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
>Subject: RE: [lbo-talk] Bohemian Grove
>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:11:12 -0400
>
>
>Hi,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Willy Greenfields [mailto:filthydirtyunwashed at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:46 PM
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Bohemian Grove
> >
> >
> >
> > I ask, is it the particular phrasing Joe W. uses or is
> > it the general idea that power perpetuates and
> > amplifies itself across private elitist networks that
> > people object to? It seems a bit much to deride
> > concern over organizations like this (and to invoke
> > Gregor Strasser) when the organization's own members
> > are discussing "Mandalay effects" and acknowledging
> > that "the contacts are amazing."
> >
>
>
>The particular phrasing. More Birch Society and Buchanan (and the
>Strassers) than C. Wright Mills, G. William Domhoff, or Holly Sklar (or
>Doug Henwood). It is exactly the distinction between power structure
>research into elite cohorts and policy networking v. oversimplified and
>individualized conspiracism that I am exploring. Domhoff and Sklar have
>also written or spoken out about this distinction, and I was once on a
>scholarly conference panel discussing the problem and the distinction
>with both of them.
>
>-Chip Berlet
>
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