[lbo-talk] Bohemian Grove

Joseph Wanzala jwanzala at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 21 16:50:04 PDT 2004


But Chip, the political scene in the US (and Europe) *has* moved to the right without the help of the marauding proto-fascists you worry about. What Zizek wrote in the New Left Review about the role of the marginalized right-wing is directly relevant here and shows that there has been a shift to the right by liberals who manipulate the spectre of the 'far right' like Le Pen etc. to distract from their own rightward shift.

"Plain to see, in fact, is the structural role of the populist Right in the legitimation of current liberal-democratic hegemony. For what this Right—Buchanan, Le Pen, Haider—supplies is the negative common denominator of the entire established political spectrum. These are the excluded ones who, by this very exclusion (their ‘unacceptability’ for governmental office), furnish the proof of the benevolence of the official system. Their existence displaces the focus of political struggle—whose true object is the stifling of any radical alternative from the Left—to the ‘solidarity’ of the entire ‘democratic’ bloc against the Rightist danger. The Neue Mitte manipulates the Rightist scare the better to hegemonize the ‘democratic’ field, i.e. to define the terrain and discipline its real adversary, the radical Left. Therein resides the ultimate rationale of the Third Way: that is, a social democracy purged of its minimal subversive sting, extinguishing even the faintest memory of anti-capitalism and class struggle." http://www.newleftreview.net/NLR23603.shtml


>From: "Chip Berlet" <cberlet at igc.org>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
>Subject: RE: [lbo-talk] Bohemian Grove
>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:25:42 -0400
>
>Hi,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: martin [mailto:mschiller at pobox.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:33 AM
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Bohemian Grove
> >
> >
> > But do you see it as more likely to be effective than current
> > progressive efforts?
> >
> > Martin
>
>
>I think that proto-fascist and progressive movements are contending for
>the loyalty of mass bases in the United States. I worry that fascism as
>a social movement can grow quickly, and while I think it is unlikely one
>could take state power, a powerful fascistic movement would move the
>U.S. political scene far to the right as politicians at first catered to
>it. Similar to the role of Kahane in Israel or Le Pen in France. I think
>that demonization, scapegoating, and conspiracism help build fascist
>movements rather than progressive movements. I think there is
>substantial historic evidence that this is true.
>
>If I did not think that progressive movements will ultimately triumph, I
>would just go fishing.
>
>-Chip Berlet
>
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