[lbo-talk] "I don't know if (labor) would survive with aDemocratic Prez"

Joseph Wanzala jwanzala at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 27 15:17:59 PDT 2004


Sounds like you are really having an argument in your own head about what he did or didn't say. What he said was very clearly that a Kerry loss *could* aid unions and the Democratic party as a whole. I never interpreted him as saying that he is not supporting Kerry. I think you are overreacting.

Joe W.

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>From: John Lacny <jlacny at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] "I don't know if (labor) would survive with
>aDemocratic Prez"
>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:20:48 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>
>Joseph Wanzala asks:
>
> > John, he *did* make the statement, to be sure it was a
> > subtle point but he did say what I referred to above on
> > Democracy Now! today and he is also quoted in USA
> > Today (why would Hoffa have denouced what he said if
> > he didn't say it?
>
>Why not actually read or listen to what he said? It's online
>(both articles and audio) at the Washington Post. In no way
>did he say that the labor movement would be "better off" if
>Kerry lost, which is what Joseph Wanzala (or whoever he
>quoted) claimed. That's not even a paraphrase -- it's a
>misrepresentation of what Stern said. Though it's par for the
>course for the media.
>
>There's a world of difference between saying that there's
>always a danger of labor leaders getting sucked into Kerry's
>machine once he's in power, and saying that a Kerry loss
>would leave labor "better off."
>
>I know this makes four posts for me today, but I wanted to
>clarify this. I think it's important to actually read/listen to
>what Stern said, instead of just parsing the headlines. What
>he said was pretty interesting, and I'm sure he'll be criticized
>for the timing, but I don't find anything to disagree with in it.
>
>
>
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>
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