[lbo-talk] release from mordor, please?

budge budge at el-pleasant.org
Wed Jun 9 14:19:08 PDT 2004


On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 at 11:29am Dwayne Monroe wrote:
>
> Good lord, what an arctic blast!

mission accomplished then.


> I love discussions that are, in some way, animated by
> LotR. The battle lines are always predictably drawn.
> Someone praises the work - if not directly, as in "I
> love it", indirectly, as Dennis does, by using
> harmless references. As if on cue, someone else is
> inspired to grandly and dismissively wave his hand -
> often with less consideration than might be used
> dealing with annoying flies.

please, i take swatting flies quite seriously.


> But there it is, this love, out there in time and
> space, a part of the thought stream. So, why not use
> it as a reference for modern concerns if it suits
> one’s fancy.

i think one should go ahead and just do that -- what ever floats your boat! so long as one isn't interested in actually communicating with non-members of your church, you can use any which words you wish in any old fashion; just don't confuse that with a conversation.


> I happen to enjoy the sight of attractive women in high
> heels - ah, the lingering pig in me, oui? If I were to
> compare something, say Bechtel’s contracting schemes in
> Iraq to, I don’t know, maybe a stripper wearing nothing
> but heels whose appearance promises pleasure but who only
> ends up taking your capital – without the contact a body
> naturally craves – you might not like this reference but
> probably would treat it less harshly than a comparison of
> the same firm to orcs or ringwraiths or some other bit of
> fantasia.

[could you please lose the orcing html -- thanks]

gee, do you think more people know what a stripper is than know what an orc is?


> Yes, there it is - this is what I find so interesting
> about attacks on some kinds of fantasy and not others. The
> disdain for the magical stuff (oh yeah, the sci fi too) is
> interesting.

hmm. do you want to see me beat up on the bible next? i can oblige. that little phantasy tome full of misogynistic, sadistic, and just plain violent behavior is also on my hit list. what fantasy do you think i leave off the hook?


> Differences in taste I understand but I'm puzzled by the
> passionate 'no'.

it is so cloyingly offensive. it is annoying. and it crops up on LBO all out of proportion with any other place in my life so this is where i'm complaining about it.

-j



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