[lbo-talk] Re: wotsit madder

Eubulides paraconsistent at comcast.net
Sat Mar 6 17:01:22 PST 2004


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Winslow" <egwinslow at rogers.com>

Ian wrote:


> These are judgments and opinions, not irrefutable assertions of facts,
> which would nonetheless run into the theory ladenness of observations.
> The
> same goes for Aristotle.
>
> Note how you are basically using an argument from authority that is not
> much different from an xtian using Leviticus in asserting that
> homosexuality is an abomination.

Thanks Ian. I mistakenly though I was making interpretative claims about Marx and Keynes supported with text, and, in the post to which you're responding here, correcting your misrepresentation of these claims as amounting to the claim that "Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are psychopaths." I hadn't realized that what I was doing was "not much different from an xtian using Levitcus in asserting that homosexuality is an abomination." How stupid of me. In future, I'll try to be more like you and avoid offering up mistaken "judgments and opinions" as "irrefutable assertions of facts."

Ted

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Apologies for overposting on a weekend.

Now you're imputing a claim of misrepresentation to me that has no basis in fact but is an interpretation of my interpretation of your interpretation in order to impute some sort of malign motive to my statements. I did not assert that your claim *was equivalent* to the notion that WB and BG are psychopaths.

Supporting a judgment with texts that concur with the judgment when all they do is make the same judgment does not establish the validity of the judgment. You're begging the question, imo. And I'm still awaiting an answer on my question regarding just what the incorrigible, non-pathological normative-behavioral-cognitive-emotive baseline is for determining that capitalists and others living in capitalism suffer estrangement from. I reject the notion that capitalism is some kind of collective psychosis -for lack of a better term- of zoon politikon in the absence of a set of assertions that could be up for rigorous discussion as to just what constitutes the norms against which the behavior of agents in capitalism are manifestations of estrangement.

Ian



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