----- Original Message ----- From: "Yoshie Furuhashi" <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>; <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: [lbo-talk] "Cheer the Fuck Up"
Doug wrote:
>the point of the point eludes me.
The point is that the American men and women who had themselves photographed while torturing Iraqis, grinning and giving thumbs up, are not "cynics," contrary to Ian's suggestion: <http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20040426/00935 9.html>.
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Right. Torturing and humiliating the Other has nothing in common with the manner in which Cynics became [in]famous for their capacity to ridicule their fellow Greeks, their callous indifference to pleasure and pain etc.
Ian