[lbo-talk] 2004 High Turnout and High Percentage for Kerry(Re: No, actually, I don't believe it.

R rhisiart at charter.net
Thu Nov 4 23:03:33 PST 2004


At 10:01 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Doug Henwood" <dhenwood at panix.com>
>
>
>Nathan Newman wrote:
> >Doug-- You are being inaccurate or at least confusing turnout based on
> >"voting age population" versus "voting eligible population."
>
>-I quite deliberately chose VAP rather than VEP as the denominator. As
>-the Census guy told me when I was doing my Atlas back in 1994, they
>-use VAP as the denominator because immigrants etc. have to obey laws
>-and pay taxes, so total pop over 18 is the relevant number.
>
>Since we are discussing the success in mobilizing voters, VAP is a useless
>number. Why not use the whole US population, including children,

when nathan newman recommends the inclusion of "children," doug, i think you're facing an up hill battle in this argument.

R


>since
>they have to obey laws and pay taxes on any income they make and the 16 and
>17-year olds face a possible draft in the next few years?
>
>I am most interested in the success in mobilizing voters to support
>candidates-- the failure to mobilize non-citizens to cast votes that they
>can't cast doesn't seem like a particularly interesting number to measure.
>
>Nathan Newman
>
>
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