[lbo-talk] Barack Obama

snit snat snitilicious at tampabay.rr.com
Sun Nov 7 09:06:29 PST 2004


At 11:48 AM 11/7/2004, Jeffrey Fisher wrote:
>um . . . was my response unjustified?
>
>you're right. it IS boring. and more than being boring, it's
>counterproductive. which is why i'm tired of hearing the old "his
>religion makes me uncomfortable" lines. we need to stay focused.
>
>and unlike kelley, i'm not yet prepared to cut obama loose and say
>he's nothing but another reactionary. the first rule of organizing i
>learned is to "meet people where they're at [sic]". maybe we'd like
>obama to be further left, but he's running for statewide office in
>illinois.


:)

damn it! i'm not saying that either! I'm saying that his view are the most progressive views--on the domestic front--we have and he articulates them in a way people need to hear--that resonates with u.s. moral tranditions. what robert bellah et al. called civic individualism. my response to carrol's claims about his Iran policy was simply, "so?, that wasn't my question." Yoshie's response was equally inane because I'd already indicated that, of course, we weren't going to find perfection. we ahve to work with the "struggles and wishes of the age" and that means finding the most progressive struggles and advancing them, instead of despising them every lovin' minute because the people who side with those struggles aren't pure leftists.

OK. i need to shut this thing down and not look at this list any more.

"We live under the Confederacy. We're a podunk bunch of swaggering pious hicks."

--Bruce Sterling



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