[lbo-talk] Where we stand today

[R]

At 04:29 AM 11/15/2004, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Doug Henwood" <dhenwood at panix.com>
>
>
>Nathan Newman wrote:
> >Of course it's okay to criticize anyone.  It's not okay to make up lies as
> >part of the criticism.
>
>-I'm not going to start fact-checking posts, esp since what some
>-people call lies others call a difference of opinion.
>
>Doug-- you shouldn't be echoing the line that all facts are just matters of
>opinion. As to the issue at stake in the exchange, whether a the different
>organizations with 1199 in their name is a separate local or not is not a
>question of opinion, but a legal matter governed by pretty tight federal
>law on elections and membership control.
>
>I'm sorry-- if you aren't going to fact check, then when people keep
>repeating lies and ignore fact check posts, you shouldn't complain when
>they get  called dipshits or any other insult.  After a while, clear lies
>or arguing based on ignorance (even after correction) doesn't deserve the
>respect of politeness.
>
>-- Nathan Newman

what do you think calling other list members liars and obscene names makes 
you look like, nathan newman?   your sanctioning this behavior is no 
different than the republican far right.  they have the same approach to 
people who they believe are liars and those who disagree with them.  try 
bill o'reilly on for size.

people have a right to be wrong -- even you.  this is the LBO-talk list, 
not heil hannity TV.

since you're so insecure in your views and in your self, maybe you should 
focus your energies on issues where you can control your emotions, and 
exercise some self discipline.

R