[lbo-talk] Re: The Democratic Party Successfully Legitimates

snit snat snitilicious at tampabay.rr.com
Fri Nov 26 03:47:31 PST 2004


At 06:56 PM 11/25/2004, John Thornton wrote:


> Would Would Not Unsure
> % % %
>Florida Governor Jeb Bush
> ALL voters 15 66 19
> Republicans 28 49 23
>
>.
>John McCain
> ALL voters 48 36 16
> Republicans 47 39 14
>
>
>Doesn't this make McCain the obvious choice?

wow! Jeb isn't well known. Personally, I think his numbers will go up as soon as they know who he is. Dunno. As for McCain... you would _think_ that his popularity would make him the obvious choice. It's just that, for the base of true believers, McCain isn't a real republican. I forget what they call them, the unrepublicans -- some mocking variations on an elephant. The activist, not necessarily evangelical, base of the party would just flip. They seem to despise the guy. These guys don't even like Bob Dole! But, I suspect that, if Shrubya and the powers that be give McCain the stamp of approval, he will be a shoe in. After all, the point is to win as a party, and as a minority voice in the party, the point is to use your position to get something for your votes. The non-evangelical base will zip it for the season and expect pay back in 2009.


> He has already earned the approval of 48% of the respondents in the ALL
> voters category vs. Jeb's 15%. Dems show a definite preference for McCain
> over Jeb making him more easily electable. I have a feeling even many
> right-wingers might balk at another Bush in the White House so soon. Fear
> of a dynasty and all that.

You would think. Yet, I have been flabbergasted since 2000 when no one seemed to care that Shrubya was so quickly elected prezdinet after his father. Aside from which, I just think these mofos think they have stones and will do whatever they please. They seem to be doing whatever they please -- it's SOP for them. It's like they have mastered the art of a *blink* and a *shrug* and they just move on, unfazed by major blunders, exposes of lies, etc. etc.


> There has been a Bush in the White house for 16 out of the last 24
> years. Three out of the last four presidencies have had a Bush in them.
> That might be hard for some far right people to take. Even if Repubs
> don't love McCain most of them would vote for him over just about any
> Dem. Giuliani might have a hard time getting past an east coat liberal
> appearance that would not sit well with many Repubs and McCain doesn't
> have that problem. What the hell do I know though? I though Kerry would
> win by 5% to 7%. What makes me maddest about Shrub winning is that he
> blew my perfect record of picking presidential winners.

*grin*

k

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