[lbo-talk] fuck you health care

joanna bujes jbujes at covad.net
Sun Sep 19 11:44:38 PDT 2004


Huh? I'm saying that sometimes we DO choose triple-bypasses. But we don't do so for trivial reasons. We choose medical procedures because we need them. Here need is "must have" not "nice to have." I'm saying that the traditional argument for managed care, that consumers of medical products/procedures will go hog wild if we don't limit them, is completely off the wall. Except for Munchausen patients, which represent a lunatic fringe, people do not like to go to the doctor, do not like medical procedures, and do not like to take pills.

Joanna

Jon Johanning wrote:


> On Sep 19, 2004, at 3:41 AM, joanna bujes wrote:
>
>> What they are asserting is that if medicine were socialized, some
>> mornings, I would opt for the triple bypass.
>>
>> Oh,....my, that does feel good.
>
>
> What would you do if you were in the position of Clinton? -Without the
> bypass, you would likely soon have a fatal heart attack. Would you opt
> for the operation or an early death? Personally, I would opt for the
> former -- if it were available to me.
>
> Of course, you can argue that Clinton got himself into his own fix by
> gorging on fast food, presumably because he was brainwashed by the
> capitalist food industry. But it is just as likely that his family
> genetic history of heart disease was the cause, or at least gave him a
> body that was especially vulnerable to Big Macs. All of the gee-whiz,
> very expensive therapies becoming available, and which in fact do keep
> people from dying early deaths or leading needlesslly incapacitated
> lives, do indeed need to be rationed somehow, but they should be
> rationed in such a way that gives any person, even the poorest, as
> much of a chance at them as an ex-President.
>
> Jon Johanning // jjohanning at igc.org
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