[lbo-talk] Sex and the Bolshies.

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 21 18:29:36 PDT 2004


Why is that a conservative remark? Btw Lenin and Inessa Armand had an affair in front of the whole Party, no one blinked. Though Krupskaya wasn't entirely pleased. Didn't the early Soviet govt decriminalize homosexuality?

--- Thomas Seay <entheogens at yahoo.com> wrote:


>
> --- BklynMagus <magcomm at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Lenin and the other revolutionaries in Russia were
> > for free love.
> > But somehow the movement was derailed and we got
> > Stalin,
>
> WrongO....Lenin was not for free love...the
> revolution
> went conservative way before Stalin took over.
> Remember his famous quip to Kollontai who argued
> that
> making love should be like drinking a glass of
> water:
> "Yes", said Lenin, "but that does not mean I should
> dip my cup into just any well"...(or something like
> that..I am paraphrasing).
>
> -Thomas
>
> =====
> The real world gives the subset of what is; the
> product space represents the uncertainty of the
> observer. The product space may therefore change if
> the observer changes; and two observers may
> legitimately use different product spaces within
> which to record the same subset of actual events in
> some actual thing. The "constraint" is thus a
> relation between observer and thing; the properties
> of any particular constraint will depend on both the
> real thing and on the observer. It follows that a
> substantial part of the theory of organization will
> be concerned with properties that are not intrinsice
> to the thing but are relational between observer and
> thing.
>
> W. Ross Ashby
>
>
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