[lbo-talk] S/M, or Operation Save America

joanna bujes jbujes at covad.net
Wed Sep 22 14:46:33 PDT 2004


Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:


> Joanna wrote:
>
>> Just because Hegel was wrong about the African character doesn't mean
>> he was wrong about everything. Most would agree that his
>> master/slave discussion was insightful, even brilliant.
>
>
> But was Hegel qualified to talk about consensual S/M? Hegel possessed
> no knowledge about it, nor (to his credit) did he claim to. Consensual
> S/M is the opposite of slavery, in that, unlike in slavery, the bottom
> is not enslaved by the top. S/M is a role-playing game, in which
> practitioners freely choose their favorite roles and define rules
> together (between S/M partners and within S/M communities). Slavery,
> unlike S/M, wasn't a game, and it insults the enslaved to conflate the
> two.

I know what consensual S/M is, but thanks for the education I guess. I didn't say Hegel was talking about consensual S/M, I said he was talking about the master/slave relationship.

Joanna



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