[lbo-talk] the petro-thusians have their moment

[John Thornton]

As I said, read their own writings. They do far more damage to their own 
credibility than I could do. Am I to assume that you too see the 
environmental problems as really just opportunities for market based profit 
making while feeling all warm and fuzzy inside that you can make enough 
money to buy a new sailboat and help the earth get cleaner too? All we need 
is decent sized movements of cash from the Government to private sector 
concerns who can going to make everything all shiny and clean. They can't 
do it on their own with private funding and the Government can't do it 
either because of lack of "creativity" when it comes to problem solving. It 
absolutely has to be transfers of taxpayer funds into the hands of 
privately held profit making centers or it simply won't work. Gee, why 
would I want to disparage that idea? This has to make three for me today so 
I can't reply on-list to any more until tomorrow.

John Thornton


>I don't know why you would be interested in damaging their credibility. If 
>they are attempting to assemble solutions to problems caused by their 
>system, using the tools that they are familiar with, shouldn't they be 
>encouraged and commended?
>
>Martin
>
>On Sep 22, 2004, at 11:29 AM, John Thornton wrote:
>
>>RMI? The Lovins' and Hawkin are pimping a Natural Capitalism that is too 
>>surreal to believe. Capitalism is the only way to find solutions to 
>>environmental problems and any other way is doomed. People need to profit 
>>from everything they do in order for it to be of any significance. Look 
>>at the names of their supporters, which I know in and of itself does not 
>>refute any of their research or ideas but it does give you an idea of the 
>>mindset of RMI's base supporters which can be helpful. William Greider, 
>>Peter Senge, Bill McKibbin, Fritjof Capra, Thomas Petzinger Jr. A 
>>veritable who's who of pro-corporate free-market believers in a 
>>capitalist environmental utopia. RMI has more nuts in it than a Payday 
>>candy bar. More to the point go to their own website and click on the 
>>pages marked "Market-Oriented Solutions" or "Corporate Transformations". 
>>Read what's there and tell me you hold these opinions in high regard. 
>>Letting them speak for themselves does more damage to their credibility 
>>than I could ever do.
>
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