[lbo-talk] S/M, or Operation Save America

Thomas Seay entheogens at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 22 20:16:20 PDT 2004


--- Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> wrote:
> >> practitioners freely choose their favorite roles
> and define rules
> >> together (between S/M partners and within S/M
> communities). Slavery,
> >> unlike S/M, wasn't a game, and it insults the
> enslaved to conflate the
> >> two.

Furthermore, many people play top or bottom on varying occasions. Often times one will experiment with both in the beginning and only choose a more or less stable role as a top or bottom once they have been playing for some time.

This has been my experience anyhow.

Thomas

===== The real world gives the subset of what is; the product space represents the uncertainty of the observer. The product space may therefore change if the observer changes; and two observers may legitimately use different product spaces within which to record the same subset of actual events in some actual thing. The "constraint" is thus a relation between observer and thing; the properties of any particular constraint will depend on both the real thing and on the observer. It follows that a substantial part of the theory of organization will be concerned with properties that are not intrinsice to the thing but are relational between observer and thing.

W. Ross Ashby

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