[lbo-talk] WBAI scores with holocaust denalist's premium

Miles Jackson cqmv at pdx.edu
Mon Aug 1 19:26:07 PDT 2005


Chuck0 wrote:
> Miles Jackson wrote:
>
>> This has puzzled me for years now: like Chris, I see no meaningful
>> distinction between a society genuinely based on Marxist principles
>> and an anarchist society. No state, activities and groups based
>> on mutual benefit and cooperation, no wage exploitation, no
>> "property rights"--how does this Marxist dream differ from Chuck's
>> anarchist utopia?
>
>
> Anarchism and Marxism have been divorced for over a hundred years now.
> There are plenty of articles and books out there on why anarchism and
> Marxism are different.
>
> Perhaps a good place to start is with the works of the libertarian
> Marxists and council communists. Why are these people closer to
> anarchism and farther from traditional Marxist leftism?
>
> A more direct answer to our questions involves the history of "Marxist"
> experiments such as the Soviet Union and China, and why anarchists focus
> so much on "practical" activities. We've seen what happens when
> so-called Marxists or Leninists seize the state to make it "wither
> away." On the other hand, anarchists maintain that you practice what you
> preach for starters. We do not have any fantasies about seizing the
> state and we prioritize implementing our ideas in our ongoing revolution.
>
> Chuck
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All of this is irrelevant to my question. I understand that anarchists and Marxists have different strategies (e.g., "seizing the state"). I'll ask again: how is the Marxist vision of a truly communist society different from your vision of an anarchist society?

Miles



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