"Liberal" (Was Re: [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat)

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 4 15:29:32 PST 2005


Well, in Anglo-American philosophy "liberal" means "supports individual rights," and includes everyone from Nozick on the right to Rawls in the center to me in the center left to Rodney Peffer on the Marxist left.

In American political discourse "liberal" means supports abortion rights, environmental regulation, more social programs as opposed to military spending, and if you are wayyy out there, unions.

Incidentally I _do_ support free markets -- not Nozick-Hayek free markets, but I am a market socialist.

jks

--- Travis Fast <tfast at yorku.ca> wrote:


> You could, but liberal means something quite
> different in those
> contexts. It has a particular meaning when used
> before the word
> democrat. Just like "social" means something quite
> specific when
> followed by democrat. But keep dancing :)
>
> Travis
>
>
> martin wrote:
>
> > On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Travis Fast wrote:
> >
> >> So what you really meant to write must have been
> "since I am a
> >> democrat" since the status of of the modifier
> liberal has no
> >> purchase sans a nod to free markets and Bentham.
> >
> >
> > Try this one for 'purchase' ...
> >
> > 4 given, used, or occurring in generous amounts :
> liberal amounts of
> > wine had been consumed.
> > • (of a person) giving generously : Sam was too
> liberal with the wine.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Martin
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