"Liberal" (Re: [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat)

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 4 15:36:48 PST 2005



> >
> I do not know how anyone who calls themselves a
> liberal democrat can 
> refuse to include in their definition of Liberal
> Democracy some nod to 
> the necessity of private property sitting alongside
> the formal equality 
> of universal suffrage. 

So sue me. Liberalism in my sense is a political, not
an economic doctrine. And I don't believe taht those
elements require private property. Nor did Marx,
though he was no liberal.

 > Or are you just a Democrat? 

No.

>  Liberals do not 
> have the corner on free competitive elections with
> universal suffrage.  
> Last time I checked it was one of the demands
> articulated in the 
> Communist Manifesto. 

So, I guess private property is not necesasrily
connectedw ith them, hmm?

 So what you really meant to
> write must have been 
> "since I am a democrat" since the status of of the
> modifier liberal has 
> no purchase sans a nod to free markets and Bentham.


Ahh, what I really meant to say. . . . Please. I said
what I meant to say. I might be wrong, but I didn't
misstate.

Free markets are fine by me. I can do without private
property. See the archive for debates on market
socialism.

jks




		
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