"Liberal" (Re: [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat)

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Sun Dec 4 15:36:48 PST 2005



> >
> I do not know how anyone who calls themselves a
> liberal democrat can
> refuse to include in their definition of Liberal
> Democracy some nod to
> the necessity of private property sitting alongside
> the formal equality
> of universal suffrage.

So sue me. Liberalism in my sense is a political, not an economic doctrine. And I don't believe taht those elements require private property. Nor did Marx, though he was no liberal.

> Or are you just a Democrat?

No.


> Liberals do not
> have the corner on free competitive elections with
> universal suffrage.
> Last time I checked it was one of the demands
> articulated in the
> Communist Manifesto.

So, I guess private property is not necesasrily connectedw ith them, hmm?

So what you really meant to
> write must have been
> "since I am a democrat" since the status of of the
> modifier liberal has
> no purchase sans a nod to free markets and Bentham.

Ahh, what I really meant to say. . . . Please. I said what I meant to say. I might be wrong, but I didn't misstate.

Free markets are fine by me. I can do without private property. See the archive for debates on market socialism.

jks

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