Travis
joanna wrote:
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> I support a unitary secular state. I think this becomes much more
> realistic when the economic and military support for Israel by the
> U.S. comes to an end. I think the uprooted and oppressed Palestinians
> deserve full citizenship in a Palestine that includes both former
> Israelis and Palestinians. They also deserve reparations on the scale
> that the Jews received following WWII. Those reparations to be paid by
> the U.S. and Israel. That's what I support.
>
> The reality of a Middle Eastern peace will not happen so long as the
> Zionist, blood-based state of Israel continues. (Oh, and in case we
> need to establish credentials, I am the daughter of a Jew who was in a
> labor camp, lost his entire (and considerable) family fortune to the
> nazis, and I have relatives who live in Israel.)
>
> Joanna
>
> Michael Hirsch wrote:
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>> Joanna:
>>
>> What exactly do you support? The ideal of a unitary secular state or
>> the reality of a Middle Eastern peace? If I thought for a moment that
>> a secular bi-or multi-national state were possible in Palestine, I'd
>> jettison any support for a two-state solution. It cannot happen. Not
>> in our lifetimes. The author's airy talk about KKK politics is
>> gallery rhetoric and beside the point. Populations are routinely
>> routed in wars. It's lousy; it must stop. And it's the outcome of
>> military conflict, which must stop. Want to make any peace settlement
>> contingent on the right of return? Want to resettle the Sudeten
>> Germans, too? How about the pro-fascist Crimean Tatars. Or is it just
>> the uprooted and oppressed Palestinians who deserve an ancestral
>> homeland? Chomsky hasn't become a Zionist cats paw and it's a dumb,
>> self-congratulatory if not self-referential argument to say he has.
>> So I ask again, what's to agree with?
>>
>> Mike Hirsch
>>
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