[lbo-talk] Federal Air Marshal kills innocent ...

[Joseph Wanzala]

You do not need conspiracy theory to find this idea 'attractive'. You only 
need to have lived outside the US in country where the state engages in 
targeted killing..... I assume that you are talking only about North America 
where many so called leftists persist in the belief that the 'system' does 
not engage in targeted killings for political reasons, but acknowledge that 
such things routinely happen in the 'Third World' (El Salvadorean death 
squads etc) and acknowledge that Western countries in fact train these death 
squads. But when people suggest the same sort of thing might be happening 
'here' it is is dismissed as 'conspiracy theory'.

As far as I know, it has not been the routine operation of the US to operate 
a global network secret prisons and 'render' hapless people unto them - 
would it meet your definition of a conspiracy theory to say that there are 
some people in government 'acting exceptionally' by doing just that - is 
America now a 'conspiracy nation'?

Joe W.


>From: "The 30 Pound Snail Who Lives on Gar Lipow's 
>Monitor"<the.typo.boy at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Federal Air Marshal kills innocent ...
>Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:22:38 -0800
>
>On 12/9/05, Joseph Wanzala <jwanzala at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > either scenario is possible - in some ways yours is scarier to the 
>extent
> > that cases of 'poorly trained, easly paniced, over armed, low bidder
> > para-military wanna-be's facing a situation that even well trained
> > professionals have trouble managing' may soon become a way of life 
>(death)
> > in this America.
> >
> > at least if killings are targeted there is some kind of ostensible 
>reason
> > behind it and perhaps some accountabilty. But if its open season on
> > perceived weirdos for the para-military wanna be's.....
>
>This is why conspiracy theories are so attractive. It is much less
>scary to think that evil comes from a few bad people than from
>something built into the structure of the system. Hmm of course I have
>to admit this is a rather tautological critique of conspiracy
>theories. Conspiracy theory is defined as ascribing the results of a
>system to individuals acting exceptionally, rather than the normal
>operation of that system, and then critized for meeting that criteria.
>Still of the term "conspiracy theory" is to be a meaningful criticism,
>then it has to have a meaning other than "an theory the person using
>the term does not like", or a theory "critical of capitalism of major
>capitalist governments or  law enforcement agencies". I think my
>definition  is more or less  the way Noam uses the term.
>
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