[lbo-talk] Evolutionary theory/Gravitation

[boddi satva]

It's not that the electrons follow a curved path instead of a straight
one, it's that they follow a path which is unknowable except
probabilistically. Again, quantum mechanics predict (and we observe in
the world) that a particle can take a path which violates geometry,
not which adheres to a curved or alternate geometry. There's no
geometric explaination for a particle going through an impenetrable
barrier, or going faster than the speed of light or taking more than
one path simultaneously, except that there is a probability it will
happen, so it does.

boddi

On 12/26/05, Charles Brown <cbrown at michiganlegal.org> wrote:
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> CB: Thanks, Les.
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> My other thought was did Epicurus speculatively derive quantum mechanics ?
> Since the swerve might explain why location and speed of electrons can't be
> simultaneously measured in that measurer is looking for the location at the
> end of a straightline and it is actually curved away from the location where
> it is looked for.
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> Reply to Justin: I don't think Epicurus gave an explanation for the curve.
> At any rate, both Democrius' version of the atom and Epircurus' swerving
> atom are not precisely like the modern scientific descriptions, just
> interestingly overlapping pictures or concepts for obvious reasons
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> Les Schaffer
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> Charles Brown wrote:
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> >On the curved space-time, interesting that in his Ph.d thesis , Marx
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> >Epicurus over Democritus , and Epicurus held that there was a declination
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> >a falling atom from a straight line, that atoms "swwerved" , which is a
> >curve, in contrast with Democritus who held they fall in a straightline.
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> charles:
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> do a google on "Zitterbewegung", doesnt relate to relativity theory, but
> you'll find the description interesting.
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> les schaffer
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> Visual Quantum Mechanics
> <http://www.kfunigraz.ac.at/imawww/vqm/pages/samples/206_01b.html>
> Solution of the free Dirac equation (Zitterbewegung) ... The time evolution
> exhibits the phenomenon called "Zitterbewegung": The expectation value of
> the ...
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> Zitterbewegung
> <http://delta.cs.cinvestav.mx/~mcintosh/comun/symm/node11.html>
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