[lbo-talk] Marc Cooper's flipping out over Churchill

Nathan Newman nathanne at nathannewman.org
Sun Feb 6 07:09:13 PST 2005


----- Original Message ----- From: <philion at stolaf.edu>

"What is so outrageous about Cooper's comments?"

-He pretends that what Churchill has said is more outrageous than numerous -similar such arguments made by his 60's hero Marcuse about the complicity -of the technocratic elite in empire.

The point is that Churchill could have made a general comment about that theoretical issue, but the minute you refer to RECENTLY MURDERED people as deserving their deaths because of that theoretical analysis, you are an idiot. Timing matters, which a lot of folks on the left at the time refused to admit. And still do apparently.

Lots of folks now discuss the relationship of US actions to breeding old and new terrorism. Doing it days after 911 and blaming specifically the victims of the attack, especially with a loaded term like "little Eichmanns", was despicable. And not even accurate, since a large number of the tenants of the World Trade Center were non-profits and government agencies. As an example, the EEOC's main northeastern offices were located there and both people and records for numerous discrimination cases were destroyed in the attack.

-And I have no idea what you mean Nathan when you say, "people who blame -the US". That phrase has about as much meaning as "people who blame -God"...I have no idea what they are referring to...

How about blaming anybody but the murderers in the days after the attacks. Whatever dispassionate sociological analysis of the causation of terrorism in the world may be useful, the folks who committed the murders were a few dozen individuals on orders from a nasty Islamic terrorist group. They are the ones to blame. THe only question is how to prevent similar attacks in the future, which may include analysis of those causal factors but it's not about "blame."

Nathan Newman



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