Susan Faludi has a good book on how men get screwed by patriarchy, Stiffed, it's called. She's not very radical on economic politics, but she's a solid feminist and an able writer.
--- snit snat <snitilicious at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> At 06:19 PM 2/7/2005, John Lacny wrote:
> >Kelly:
> >
> > > You can say that men benefit, as a group:
> privilege, higher
> > > wages, etc. etc. But that's too narrow, because
> it doesn't
> > > consider the ways men suffer under the current
> system:
> > > shorter life spans, higher stress levels, etc.
> etc.
> >
> >True, but you don't even have to go there.
>
> as long as you talking to the already converted....
>
> >The reality is that most men are
> >actually hurt by sexism not only because of its
> culturally/psychologically
> >warping effects, but "materially" because it serves
> as a linchpin of a
> >system that oppresses most men, too.
>
> in order to get people to here, you have to do more
> than assert that
> hetero/sexism, ablism, racism, and so forth are
> linchpins of capitlist
> exploitation and oppression. I know you already know
> this, but there
> imagery here bothers me. It evokes the sense that
> heterosexist, ablist,
> racist oppression are secondary -- that perhaps the
> only reason we might,
> as leftists, care about these issues is because they
> stand in the way to
> true solidarity. It's as if it's just not important
> enough to examine
> hetero/sexist systems of oppression unless it's
> stamped with The Leftist
> Authetic Class Analysis Label.
>
> I'm not an extremist here. I spent a couple of years
> criticizing "race,
> class, gender" analyses because, in the end, they
> never examined class as
> anything more than an identity that you can take on
> and off like a pair of
> overalls.
>
> It's not, IOW, that I disagree with what you say.
> The imagery just grates,
> especially when we've heard more than a few times in
> this forum that
> worrying about things like gender oppression,
> hetero/sexism, etc. are just
> soooooo secondary to the real, macho stuff: class
> analysis.
>
> And, anyway, my first point is that, if you're going
> to talk to reg'lar
> folk, I suspect that you do have to get into the
> nitty gritty of exactly
> _how_ men suffer -- and not merely because they are
> workers. They need to
> understand how their very identity, life choices,
> etc. etc. are delimited
> by systems of oppression.
>
>
> Kelley
>
> "We live under the Confederacy.
> We're a podunk bunch of swaggering
> pious hicks."
>
> --Bruce Sterling
>
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