But failing war crimes trials for capitalist leaders, we should just sigh when jihadist murderers blow up our buildings, and denounce as a sham any proceedings to which they are subject by the capitalist state. It's not enough that the Sheik received an open trial with free legal counsel of his choice and the burden of proof on the state to show he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, plus appellate review. As long as the Clintons and Bushes escape justice, that is meaningless. Not worth fighting for. Reactionary to defend. . . .
This is why I don't talk to you. We are too far apart for reasoned discussion.
Did you get the point, however, about why the Sheik is an actual participant in the crimes he conspired to commit? The basis of hsi liability is exactly the same as that of a Clinton or a Bush, who never pulls a trigger, just gives orders, approves plans, and agrees to the criminal actions of others.
--- frank scott <frank at marin.cc.ca.us> wrote:
> "The relevant point here is that the Sheik was
> convicted of conspiracy to murder, commit terrorost
> acts, and the like, and from a legal point of view
> it
> makes no difference that he did not fire a gun or
> press the detonator. He is legally (and if guilty,
> as
> the jury believed, and I agree, morally) as much an
> actual participant in the acts he conspired to do as
> his co-conspirators.
> No doubt you will dismiss this as mere bourgeois
> legality."
>
> nope...
>
> in fact, andie, i'd love "bourgeois legality", if
> it were consistent
> enough to throw clinton's ass into a cell next to
> the sheik's, and
> every other president since the war, if the kangaroo
> court - nuremberg
> laws were truly observed for all, and not just the
> losers...
>
> didn't make that up, it's a paraphrase of
> chomsky,and i think he said
> they should be executed, which was the penalty at
> kangaroo-berg... but
> wouldn't it be great if everyone could jump up and
> down in happiness at
> such observance of "bourgeois legality"?
>
> just asking...
>
> fs
>
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