[lbo-talk] The Military, the Church, and the Police

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Thu Feb 24 09:57:45 PST 2005



>My point is that, while individuals may be all over the place, in
>general a lot of white evangelicals have a taste for authoritarian
>politics. I didn't think that was controversial, but I guess it is
>with you.
>
>Doug

Your initial claim extended far beyond evangelicals, though: "And what about all those Americans who like to be told what to do, and who admire authoritarian institutions like the military, the church, and the cops?" (at <http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20050221/003989.html>). If you despair of all Americans who say they admire the military, the church, and the cops in the abstract, you might as well give up on US politics. It's better to regard the military and the church as institutions many of whose members must be won over to the left. Actually, organizing among GIs, military families, and veterans got off to a lot better start than during the Vietnam War, with early establishment of such organizations as Iraq Veterans against the War, Military Families Speak Out, and the Bring Them Home Now coalition. It's important to keep in mind that most GIs and military families who come to oppose the Iraq War have yet to adopt any kind of coherent left-wing politics and that those who just refuse to go back -- or let their loved ones go back -- to Iraq aren't necessarily even opposed to the Iraq War itself. Nevertheless, such oppositions -- even purely self-interested ones -- are probably more important than most anti-war actions.

Jordan Hayes jmhayes at speakeasy.net, Wed Feb 23 19:18:25 PST 2005:
>Yoshie writes, talking about churches:
>
>>Unlike the military, however, places of warship -- with the
>>exception of mosques -- are generally racially segregated.
>
>Nice Freudian slip! Places of warship! ;)

A typo is a typo. I only claim my typing is better than Justin's typing and Michael Perelman's voice recognition software. :-> -- Yoshie

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