>Matt:
>"I am a physicist by training, and |.| I still see the world as completely
>natural. "
>By "world" you mean that which is visible to us now. but before this
>universe formed what would you refer to as natural?
Whatever "world" existed at that epoch of metatime, of course.
Shane Mage
"Thunderbolt steers all things...It consents and does not consent to be called Zeus."
Herakleitos of Ephesos