joanna : Please read my words. I described a "vasectomy at five years old without anesthetics." In other words, severe, excruciatingly painful trauma to /near the sexual organs at an age when thunderstorms are scary.....and performed and approved of by those who "love" you.
^^^^^ CB: I should have read it more carefully. I see what you mean.
I think there are some places with unanesthetized male youth circumcision, which might give a closer comparison.
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By the by, as I mentioned before, clitoral circumcision is also practiced in the U.S. to reduce the size of clitorieses that are larger than 1/2 a centimeter. Of course, this is done with anesthetic, also by those who love you. But the message is loud and clear.