[lbo-talk] Leading Scientists Still Reject God

[Jeffrey Fisher]

On 6/9/05, Chuck0 <chuck at mutualaid.org> wrote:
> Jeffrey Fisher wrote:
> 
> > well, i'm trying to understand exactly what direct action against
> > religion or the religious right would look like. what are the targets
> > and what kinds of campaigns are you talking about? i'm not saying you
> > need to have all the answers in order to make the case. i'm just
> > looking for examples that we can use to talk about it.
> >
> > it would help me get a handle on what you mean and what i think about
> > it. it might even mean i could help, if i understood better what you
> > actually think any of this would look like in practice.
> 
> Take the American Family Association for example. There are several
> possible campaigns that can be organized against them. An educational
> effort could be organized against them, similar to the various groups
> that are dogging and exposing Fox News. 

is that stuff working? what are the measures of success?


> You could organize civil
> disobedience outside of their offices, or you could organize direct
> action to disrupt their campigns. 

i do like that, but one has to be careful. see below. how would you do
it? and to what end, precisely? is it always necessary to react? how
would you do sommetihng positive that is not just tearing down the afa
(not that that doesn't have its merits, btw).


> One could organize creative protests
> to mock the AFA and adbust their media campaigns. If people are brave
> enough, you could organize education campaigns that go door-to-door in
> the south and/or target churches.

what would you do at these churches? leaflet? seriously.


> 
> Or take AFA's efforts to take over the airwaves to spread their hate
> messages. You can fight this through reformism (lobbying the FCC). You
> can organize campaigns in towns with AFA repeaters and organize people
> around a message of local media, not robot christian media. You can
> monkeywrench AFA repeater stations through pirate radio or simple
> sabotage of their transmission site. Or if civil disobedience is more
> your style, blockade the offices of AFA's radio division with a sit-down
> occupation.

so is all this stuff just to call attention to the afa? or are there
specific sorts of demands? or it's really just sabotage?


> 
> So those are some suggestions for action that didn't require millions of
> dollars to fund research into the AFA.

well, but isn't this all about money? and about who has the money and
the huevos to not care about afa/frc campaigns? how do you fund a
media (more) impervious too such attacks?


> 
> Fight back and give them a taste of their own medicine. Make resistance
> to them visible, especially in the so-called "red states."

ok, but mustn't one do this in a way that does not simply reinforce
their power? that is, that persuades all the people who buy their crap
that they're actually right about us?

j

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