>Joanna sees this. Why don't you, Ms. Prole? (What does an RN in SF make
>these days? It ain't minimum wage.)
First of all, I'm not going to tell you Grace's story, that's her prerogative, but I'll tell you this: I've lived on easy street by comparison.
So, SDSTFU for a change and _listen_. Her words were, you'll recall: "(a line worker = prole = staff RN can't do this, you can if you're a NP, CNM or MD)." If you'd had half clue, you would get what she's talking about in terms of the way the hierarchy of who can do what and where in the health industry.
And who the hell cares if she's "really" a prole or not. It has utterly nothing to do with _anything_ she said. She doesn't have to prove her prole street cred to you or anyone else.
>There's no reason to tug our forelocks and be all tortured and apologetic
>about abortions. Unwanted pregnancies happen, and it's absolutely
>essential that women be allowed to end them. Daycare, health insurance,
>etc. are all somewhat relevant, but even in the best society, abortions
>will be necessary. It takes some courage to offer them in this country
>today, and the people who do should be thanked, not insulted.
>
>Doug
I'm tired of assholes who think I or anyone else has to have an abortion ONLY because we don't have healthcare or a job or daycare. I'm tried of having to posture and say, "Well, we should work for all these other things so abortion isn't necessary." I'm tried of watching women say that the condom broke instead of just saying, "We wanted to fuck." It all has to be "acceptable" to some guy (usually) sitting in judgement. Did she really deserve to have an abortion. Oh. No. She fucked without a condom. Bzzzzzzt. No abortion for you honey.
And, for christ sake, some of you should get some props for this "what about the people" routine. If you want to police the boundaries of acceptable left talk in left circles in the name of "the people," then get a uniform. You could at least entertain my cop fantasies or something. (Oh Mr Ossifier, what a big, shiny gun you have.)
Or maybe a fainting couch would be better for the routine. A nice big red brocade one: "OH Rhett. Rhett. I'm just *shocked* *shocked*. Did you hear what Francie Ann said to Joe who told that tale to Frank and then Susan said "Abortion is like having a hang nail removed." Oh my heart. I feel my blood pressure rise. I feel so weak. I'm all atwitter. What will "the people" say if they hear us talk like that?" The shame. The horror. Oh.
*swoon*
Gimme a flippin' break. I'm talking to you, lefties. If your sensibilities are offended, say so. Don't put "the people" in front of you to defend your views. Oh. My. Gawd. What the people will say when they hear us talk! Ooooooooo. Noooooooooo.
It is, as Carrol says, a purely metaphysical dilemma because, for one, I'm talking to you, lefties. Not to my grandma or my neighbor or my friend M. I'm perfectly capable of talking to my grandma, or my neighbor, or my friend M and I know how to finesse this stuff. I'd hazard a guess that most of us on this list do. If not, we can ask each other for help with it.
We don't just struggle for the day when there's no need for abortions. We struggle for the day when no one gets their big boy panties in a twist over it. You don't like it? In a jar daddyo, in a jar. We have them because we WANT to. And we talk about our underwear, the weather, and doable guys when we have them. In a jar daddyo, in a jar.
At 10:17 PM 5/9/2005, Miles Jackson wrote:
>I guess Jordan should put one of those "Check prediction" flags on this
>thread: come the revolution, there will be a proliferation of sex work,
heh. heh. I do a beavis and butthead here....
>not the elimination of it.
>
>Miles
after all, in a socialist society, we would all work and our work would be understood as contributing to the greater good of which we are all a part.
i can't think of anything more enjoyable than the look on a guy's face when he gets a blow job that he likes. lebian women -- it's almost as good, but men are much more appreciative. can anyone else think of ANYTHING better than that? and I _know_ that's how plenty of men feel about women's orgasms. maybe it would just rock to be able to give someone pleasure for a living -- as part of your contribution to the greater good of society, eh? :)
and I can't see how it'd be any weirder doing it for strangers than it was weird for those nurses to go out of their way to give me a bag full of maxipads and condoms! or the orderly to sit in sonshine's room and hang out. they made people happy whom they barely knew, had no reasonable expectation of getting to know, and maybe didn't even care to know more.
and how many of us older women here haven't thought we might like to contribute to the betterment of the lives of hetwomen by taking a young man into our tutelage? hmmmm? we may have even done so, entering into a relationship we knew was short-term, thinking that, heck, with my tutelage i'll be contributing to the greater good of society.
what a great job!
k