[lbo-talk] New Sex drugs

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Sat May 28 13:17:52 PDT 2005


Everythging is obvious to Bill and anyone who disagrees with him is an idiot. Wish I knew so much.

The problem isn't that the parental bond theory is a just so story, the problem is that it doesn't explain wht women would have evolved the capacity for orgasm. Just because sex is good for her,a ssuiming he has somew clue about what to do, which, as I remarked, is more than what most men do, doesn't even begin to suggest that she will want to stand by her man rather than running around all over town getting orgasms from all and sundry. Sigh.

jks

--- Miles Jackson <cqmv at pdx.edu> wrote:


>
>
> On Sun, 29 May 2005, Bill Bartlett wrote:
>
> > Hardy doesn't seem to have the slightest grasp of
> how evolution works. The
> > "Darwinian logic behind the female orgasm" is
> hardly "elusive", it seems
> > fairly obvious to me that it might support the
> bond between parents over the
> > extended period necessary for humans to rear their
> children. The "Darwinian
> > logic" is that children being supported by two
> parents generally have an
> > advantage over children supported only by one
> parent and sex seems to help to
> > keep mother and father on the team. I would have
> thought it unnecessary to
> > spell out that an ongoing sex life is more likely
> if both parents are
> > enjoying it.
>
> Cue Justin; more "just so" stories! I can't resist
> engaging in
> speculation, though: Bill's argument doesn't even
> seem to work as
> a "just so" adaptation story. If a woman can have
> an orgasm with
> any sexual partner, male, female or herself
> (remember that intercourse is
> definitely not necessary!), why on earth would she
> be compelled to
> form a pair bond with just one man? You could just
> as plausibly
> argue that orgasm would encourage a variety of
> sexual relationships
> (but of course, that doesn't fit the "women are
> monogamous" stereotype, so we don't tend to make up
> "just so"
> stories about women's natural promiscuity).
>
> Miles
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