[lbo-talk] Social Democracy

Jim Devine jdevine03 at gmail.com
Sat May 28 17:26:38 PDT 2005


this is useless. It seems to me that both social dems and revolutionary socialists get their success from the popular struggle of the working class and other dominated segments of society. In some situations the SDs and RSs play a positive role. JD

On 5/28/05, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
> Carrol Cox wrote:
>
> >I have never seen on this list a single concrete suggestion as to how
> >social democratic goals can be achieved. It seems that the only argument
> >they have is that commumism won't work. But disproving Zeus doesn't
> >demonstrate Shiva's existence. Put differently, social democracy is
> >parasitic on revolutionary socialism, and without a revolutionary threat
> >social democrats are so many bits of old lavender.
>
> I have never seen on this list a single concrete suggestion as to how
> revolutionary socialism can be achieved. It seems that the only
> argument you have is that social democracy is unachievable. But
> disproving Shiva doesn't demonstrate Zeus's existence. Put
> differently, revolutionary socialism is parasitic on history and
> fantasy, and without a revolutionary movement revolutionary
> socialists are so many bits of surplus bile.
>
> Doug
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-- Jim Devine



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