--- Jim Devine <jdevine03 at gmail.com> wrote:
> this is useless. It seems to me that both social
> dems and
> revolutionary socialists get their success from the
> popular struggle
> of the working class and other dominated segments of
> society. In some
> situations the SDs and RSs play a positive role.
> JD
>
> On 5/28/05, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
> > Carrol Cox wrote:
> >
> > >I have never seen on this list a single concrete
> suggestion as to how
> > >social democratic goals can be achieved. It seems
> that the only argument
> > >they have is that commumism won't work. But
> disproving Zeus doesn't
> > >demonstrate Shiva's existence. Put differently,
> social democracy is
> > >parasitic on revolutionary socialism, and without
> a revolutionary threat
> > >social democrats are so many bits of old
> lavender.
> >
> > I have never seen on this list a single concrete
> suggestion as to how
> > revolutionary socialism can be achieved. It seems
> that the only
> > argument you have is that social democracy is
> unachievable. But
> > disproving Shiva doesn't demonstrate Zeus's
> existence. Put
> > differently, revolutionary socialism is parasitic
> on history and
> > fantasy, and without a revolutionary movement
> revolutionary
> > socialists are so many bits of surplus bile.
> >
> > Doug
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