>Explain. How so?
>
>As far as petty-producer consciousness goes, that's been the default
>nature of most working-class culture for at least a century, so I don't
>see how it's any different now.
>
>Consciousness changes in action, not in passive responses to information
>or ideas. So it has always been, and I see no change.
>
>Carrol
A quickie
What was consciousness before it changed? it was being _maintained_. (I thought you liked Roy Bhaskar on this topic?)
And, of course, I'll try again but I won't hold my breath: You never answer me when I point out that Marx wrote about exactly what I'm talking about -- and all throughout his life, so you can't just blow it off as "young Marx" thing. 'k? :) Alas, I don't have time for this these days, so you can google it in the archives! and don't forget to monetize the archives while you're there. :)
Also, I think you misread: I didn't say anything about some radical change in consciousness. (And, btw, since you _know_ where I stand on that issue -- we agree -- then why bother reading something into my post that isn't even there, hmmmm? Christ, you might look like Kris Kringle (Miracle on 34th St.) in my mind but right now, you've got bubblegum on your beard. :)
I was merely pointing out that what people are missing is that's it's not just about Microsloth monopolizing intellectual property. It'as also about maintaining that petty producer consciousness. Just when you think it might not happen, advertising and, it's extension via GooglePark, militates against it.
(As you say, we need 30% for a revo, right? Well, why do the rest not join up, hmmmm?)
I'm saying, it's not big corps necessarily clamping down on intellectual property that might be a problem. That petty producer consicousness is being maintained by a twisted version of open source and so-called democracy in order to get people to bake their own bread and circuses. And using something a lot of people applaud: like Google saying, hey, check out the APIs and make your own adaptations.
So, the techgeeks did and you get Frappr and a bizillion other things. And all of it just provides more platforms for Google and its advertisers to pitch their stuff. People generate the content. People generate the tools. It all seems so democratic and FREE! and individualistic. And all thewhile, it's cementing our religion: individualism.
Finally, you might need to go read the blog to get a taste of that part where I talk about how this is part of a process where the consumer does more and more of the work as companies ask the consumer to do it and, thereby, they save money. It's a real strategy they've used to cut costs, eh?
These things are veils over our eyes, making it difficult to see how production is socialized. It'd be fun to discuss the alternatives, where are we able to see the interdepdence Marx expected us to see? Where are we seeing places where people are recognizing that labor is social labor.
Oh and another finally: you and I have had this discussion beofre. I don't have the same version of praxis as you have. We fundamentally disagree, so there's no point in discussing it. I'm not going to change my mind and neither are you. It's one of those things that just can't be helped. Where we differ is that at least I try to get your argument right. Someday, I look forward to the day you do the same. I'll even give you some Tung Oil. :)
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