>>You're blaming the victim. If a messenger can't be bothered to make 
>>a good faith effort state the argument clearly, in fact goes out of 
>>their way to make it as incomprehensible as possible, then shoot 
>>the messenger. Not the person who doesn't understand the garbled 
>>message.
>
>Okay, leave aside Butler, reread my posts in this thread.  Perhaps
>I'm full of myself, but I think I've stated the argument
>forcefully and clearly.
You've stated an argument clearly. I don't agree with it entirely, I think you overstate the importance of social influences on gender, but you are plain and clear. I have no idea whether that is the same argument as Butler is making though, because Butler does not argue plainly.
Bill Bartlett Bracknell Tas